Calgary Transit

[CalgaryTiger]

A new MSF could be constructed at another station with adjacent Park and Ride. There's Southland and Heritage nearby that have Park and Rides on the correct side of the freight tracks. I can dream up some interesting development that include an MSF, some parking, and maybe some other uses that would have public benefit.

 

[Red Star]

A new MSF could be constructed at another station with adjacent Park and Ride. There's Southland and Heritage nearby that have Park and Rides on the correct side of the freight tracks. I can dream up some interesting development that include an MSF, some parking, and maybe some other uses that would have public benefit.

That's a good idea. But isn't it beneficial to build an MSF at the terminus of a train system?

 

[CalgaryTiger]

That's a good idea. But isn't it beneficial to build an MSF at the terminus of a train system?

It does make the most sense to have it near the terminus for sure. In this scenario an MSF at Southland or Heritage, that is smaller than the one at the terminus, would make the Haysboro facility redundant. An MSF at Southland, which is more industrial than Anderson or Heritage, also gives you the opportunity to open up the land at Anderson to residential development. Could you also include a bus barn at the theoretical Southland MSF, maybe, there is the new bus barn that is coming at the Motocross track off Blackfoot but I think you'd still want bus storage further south in the city?

With the Red Line running up Crowchild you're pretty limited with options for an MSF in the north.

 

[ethan.l.cecc]

It does make the most sense to have it near the terminus for sure. In this scenario an MSF at Southland or Heritage, that is smaller than the one at the terminus, would make the Haysboro facility redundant. An MSF at Southland, which is more industrial than Anderson or Heritage, also gives you the opportunity to open up the land at Anderson to residential development. Could you also include a bus barn at the theoretical Southland MSF, maybe, there is the new bus barn that is coming at the Motocross track off Blackfoot but I think you'd still want bus storage further south in the city?

With the Red Line running up Crowchild you're pretty limited with options for an MSF in the north.

While both locations would generally be good, both lots are significantly smaller than Anderson (which is about 15 acres total, 8.5 of which are for the LRT). Heritage and Southland are 3 and 5 acres respectively. They could just be used for storage and light maintenance (cleaning and interior maintenance), but would still be very small. In comparison, the South MSF is around the same size as Oliver Bowen (over 30 acres), which means an increase of 60-108 train cars (based on the numbers for OB), more than enough for the current plans. I don't think Anderson would be able to be retired until another facility is built, and even then it could just be converted to be only a bus garage. As for another bus garage to the south of the city...I remember seeing a map of proposed future garages, but can't seem to find it. But either way, another garage is likely to be put further south, potentially in the Shepard area.

 

[whatchyyc]

I remember seeing a map of proposed future garages, but can't seem to find it.

From RouteAhead 2023:

 

[pdubs015]

On the CMLC website, I saw TOC proposals for three locations: Anderson, Dalhousie and Fish Creek stations. It’s light on details, as they are in the ‘exploration’ phase. That being said, it’s an exciting milestone on three great sites.

I’m hopeful this will turnout great, as master planning by site should be an effective method. Not all sites can be executed well at the exact same time, so build them in manageable clusters.

When these developments are combined with the positive momentum near other stations, it’s looking great for future ridership numbers. The recent areas coming to mind are Heritage, Franklin, 45 St SW, and Shaganappi.