Stampede Station | 270m | 69s | Truman | NORR

CBBarnett said:
I would be interesting to see how the hotel industry groups estimate demand and a deficit. I'd imagine they are more interesting to look at and a bit boosterish, than accurate and useful. Trends seem to often change much faster than most of these projections are capable of contemplating.

For example, only 6 years ago we were getting articles like this:
'Stop building' hotels in Calgary, industry urges, as supply of rooms outstrips demand
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6 years ago we had nearly 400,000 less people in the CMA
 
CT (Chinese_T) said:
I keep hearing people say the tower will be "252m" and "Only one meter taller than Stantec!"

Perhaps we should change the thread title to say either ">251m" or "?m" to avoid confusion.
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The height is really there only as a placeholder so it shows up in the proper sub forums on the main skyrisecities page :) We could put it higher than 252m, as I suspect it will be higher than 252, but for now it fits into the 200-300m category.
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This is really good for YYC.Im not really sure what happened with the relationship with SOM and developers here. Either way, I was hoping it was perhaps a Smith+Gill project perhaps, but then again Truman would not be able to afford them, that holds true.
 
My brother worked at one of the hotels by the airport back in the summer of 2023, and he said they were >90% full every day from June-August. And travel demand has only increased since then. I'm not surprised to hear the city is short on hotel rooms, especially if we want to host large-scale events.
 
I changed the height on the building. Truman has stated both towers will be taller than Brookfield Place, so I made the shorter tower 248m (1m taller than Brookfield) and the taller one 22m above that. Again, these will change once there is a DP, but there wasn't much point keeping the shorter tower less heigh than Brookfield Place.
 
Surrealplaces said:
I changed the height on the building. Truman has stated both towers will be taller than Brookfield Place, so I made the shorter tower 248m (1m taller than Brookfield) and the taller one 22m above that. Again, these will change once there is a DP, but there wasn't much point keeping the shorter tower less heigh than Brookfield Place.
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I would bet the taller one comes in around that height, but even a bit more. If the 62 storey one is coming at 252m, the taller one (based on extrapolation of 10 extra floors should come in at around 278m. That's assuming the bottom 5 floors are exactly double the height of a regular floor. Also we don't know if the penthouse floors are a bit taller.
 
CBBarnett said:
I would be interesting to see how the hotel industry groups estimate demand and a deficit. I'd imagine they are more interesting to look at and a bit boosterish, than accurate and useful. Trends seem to often change much faster than most of these projections are capable of contemplating.

For example, only 6 years ago we were getting articles like this:
'Stop building' hotels in Calgary, industry urges, as supply of rooms outstrips demand
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A few things were different back then. A bunch of new hotels opened at the same time (2019), so there was a bit of a short term glut, but also world travel has changed since the pandemic. Calgary has been seeing an increase in visitors every year and add in a new larger convention centre and we should in theory see more downtown visitors.
Gondek is probably exaggerating the need for more rooms, but given the increase in global travel + Banff being a destination site, + Westjet now having direct flights to so many overseas cites, the number of visitors coming to Calgary and Banff is only going to increase.
 
Surrealplaces said:
I changed the height on the building. Truman has stated both towers will be taller than Brookfield Place, so I made the shorter tower 248m (1m taller than Brookfield) and the taller one 22m above that. Again, these will change once there is a DP, but there wasn't much point keeping the shorter tower less heigh than Brookfield Place.
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"Truman has stated both towers will be taller than Brookfield Place", Well that's gonna look interesting!
 
At 910 feet, they could have gone with something like 78 storeys for the taller one and 52 for the shorter one. We would’ve had Western Canada‘s first super tall. 😎

But I’m not gonna be greedy, I’ll take 910 feet anytime.
 
BKha said:
At 910 feet, they could have gone with something like 78 storeys for the taller one and 52 for the shorter one. We would’ve had Western Canada‘s first super tall. 😎

But I’m not gonna be greedy, I’ll take 910 feet anytime.
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The funny thing about that is this one might literally be up to 300 meters.
 
I was measuring based off the height of the next door Vetro building last night (which btw is actually 115 meters according to Skyscraperpage) Anyway my estimates based off the two closeup renders both came between 280 and 290 meters pretty consistently
 
Brookfield Place is actually shorter than 247 metres.

Truman says they're both taller and the renderings comes across as 900 feet tall. The floor heights needed to reach 900 feet tall just don't make any sense; condo floors 15 feet tall and the ground floor would be 30 to 40 feet high?

AS+GG wouldn't be priced out of a project such as this. NORR is just family now.
 
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